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		<title>By: paularmstrong</title>
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		<dc:creator>paularmstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree.  It&#039;s not long-term thinking.&lt;br&gt;Regardless of if it&#039;s social media, digital or straight PR the job remains the same - counsel your client correctly and do not chase numbers.  Chase better, richer, smarter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree.  It&#39;s not long-term thinking.<br />Regardless of if it&#39;s social media, digital or straight PR the job remains the same &#8211; counsel your client correctly and do not chase numbers.  Chase better, richer, smarter.</p>
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		<dc:creator>PR, Public Relations &#38; communications news and features</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 0 &#160; Add your comment    Wadds pulled together a coherent organisation of the facts against automating the acquisition of Twitter followers, but would you do it if a client asked for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: will mcinnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>will mcinnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It feels to me that, though this is a nice piece of investigative journalism in our little nichey village, that there&#039;s still more of an issue out there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As our market is growing rapidly and maturity, competition, consolidation and so on kick in, and as pitches and clients are won by tooth and claw, how many will stick to their originally expressed ethical positions? How many will convince their clients of engagement and how many will cave to the pursuit of big numbers and volume over value, just to win the business? Why else would you chase numbers? Any monkey knows that it&#039;s not what drives success in these new spaces - with or without the theory of network dynamics.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That is what this is really about. It&#039;s not about scripts - it&#039;s about how far will you/we/they go, and where do you draw the line.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The above piece says to me that in our community - *our* community - the line is already under threat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It feels to me that, though this is a nice piece of investigative journalism in our little nichey village, that there&#39;s still more of an issue out there.</p>
<p>As our market is growing rapidly and maturity, competition, consolidation and so on kick in, and as pitches and clients are won by tooth and claw, how many will stick to their originally expressed ethical positions? How many will convince their clients of engagement and how many will cave to the pursuit of big numbers and volume over value, just to win the business? Why else would you chase numbers? Any monkey knows that it&#39;s not what drives success in these new spaces &#8211; with or without the theory of network dynamics.</p>
<p>That is what this is really about. It&#39;s not about scripts &#8211; it&#39;s about how far will you/we/they go, and where do you draw the line.</p>
<p>The above piece says to me that in our community &#8211; *our* community &#8211; the line is already under threat.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Top piece Wadds.

For me there is (as ever) a client-education job here as well. Marketing Directors love numerical metrics, and may be suckered into thinking that large numbers are always a good thing. Often they are, don&#039;t get me wrong. But not always. Whereas, I&#039;ll stick my neck out and suggest that PR Directors, who have a history of trying to navigate the space between pure numbers, influence and authority might see it slightly differently.

I may be naive and old-fashioned, but transparency has to win out in the long term, doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Top piece Wadds.</p>
<p>For me there is (as ever) a client-education job here as well. Marketing Directors love numerical metrics, and may be suckered into thinking that large numbers are always a good thing. Often they are, don&#8217;t get me wrong. But not always. Whereas, I&#8217;ll stick my neck out and suggest that PR Directors, who have a history of trying to navigate the space between pure numbers, influence and authority might see it slightly differently.</p>
<p>I may be naive and old-fashioned, but transparency has to win out in the long term, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention ReputationOnline » Blog Archive » Stephen Waddington on ‘Twitter followers: just say no to auto, mate’ -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: OMB</title>
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		<dc:creator>OMB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s about quality and not quantity - even in Twitterville. I&#039;m also a believer in Twitter being a place for people to mingle in the crowd and not preach from a podium - hence why I&#039;ve deleted a lot of &quot;high follower&quot; accounts even in the PR and marketing circle, as they don&#039;t always add anything to the conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about quality and not quantity &#8211; even in Twitterville. I&#8217;m also a believer in Twitter being a place for people to mingle in the crowd and not preach from a podium &#8211; hence why I&#8217;ve deleted a lot of &#8220;high follower&#8221; accounts even in the PR and marketing circle, as they don&#8217;t always add anything to the conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Mat Morrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mat Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 11:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wadds -- love the way that you&#039;ve ordered the people you&#039;ve quoted by number of followers (well, more or less.) The sad fact is that most of us will instinctively pay more attention to someone w/ (say) 7K followers than we will to someone w/ 20 (or even 2K) followers.

Alan Patrick&#039;s article &lt;a href=&quot;http://broadstuff.com/archives/2062-Social-Capitalists-and-The-New-Feudalism.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Social Capitalists and The New Feudalism&lt;/a&gt; points out that &quot;the new follower&#039;s best strategy is to suck up to the popular ones to get that all important link.&quot; And advertisers will begin to &lt;a href=&quot;http://searchengineland.com/is-celebrity-tweetvertising-worth-paying-for-34384&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;value &#039;celebrity&#039; tweeting&lt;/a&gt; on an OTS basis.

I tend to be somewhat cynical when assessing followers -- I look at their profile, sure; but I also look at the friend/follow ratio. So -- someone w/ 7K followers who follows around 7K people is generally (I&#039;m afraid) off my list. Think that (as much as anything else) prevents me from following &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/wearesocial&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@wearesocial&lt;/a&gt; (ratio: 1.00) while leaving me happy to follow &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/robingrant&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@robingrant&lt;/a&gt; (ratio: 0.20)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wadds &#8212; love the way that you&#8217;ve ordered the people you&#8217;ve quoted by number of followers (well, more or less.) The sad fact is that most of us will instinctively pay more attention to someone w/ (say) 7K followers than we will to someone w/ 20 (or even 2K) followers.</p>
<p>Alan Patrick&#8217;s article <a href="http://broadstuff.com/archives/2062-Social-Capitalists-and-The-New-Feudalism.html" rel="nofollow">Social Capitalists and The New Feudalism</a> points out that &#8220;the new follower&#8217;s best strategy is to suck up to the popular ones to get that all important link.&#8221; And advertisers will begin to <a href="http://searchengineland.com/is-celebrity-tweetvertising-worth-paying-for-34384" rel="nofollow">value &#8216;celebrity&#8217; tweeting</a> on an OTS basis.</p>
<p>I tend to be somewhat cynical when assessing followers &#8212; I look at their profile, sure; but I also look at the friend/follow ratio. So &#8212; someone w/ 7K followers who follows around 7K people is generally (I&#8217;m afraid) off my list. Think that (as much as anything else) prevents me from following <a href="http://twitter.com/wearesocial" rel="nofollow">@wearesocial</a> (ratio: 1.00) while leaving me happy to follow <a href="http://twitter.com/robingrant" rel="nofollow">@robingrant</a> (ratio: 0.20)</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Twitter followers: just say no to auto, mate&#8221; – article for Reputation Online &#124; Wadds' PR Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;Twitter followers: just say no to auto, mate&#8221; – article for Reputation Online &#124; Wadds' PR Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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